Midjourney is Way Too CENSORED! I Tested The FREE Alternative

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   Flux Schnell is all about speed, and Flux Dev and Pro are for quality. I’m working on a new video that dives deep into these head-to-head comparisons, including how Schnell, Pro and Dev stacks up against each other and MidJourney. Stay tuned—it’s going to be an exciting week!

   Which do you prefer?

   1. Yes

   2. @@huwhitememesSame

   3. Flux. I have it running in ComfyUI on my struggling 8GB 2070 Super with the Dev model. It does take some time to create an image, the one I just did took 150 seconds. I lost interest in Midjourney when each new iteration seemed to restrict the content I wanted and the characters looked nicer but more generic with the same prompts I had used previously (also couldn’t be arsed with the subscription costs).

   4. Midjourney is one of those things where no matter how many people compare it to others midjourney is still “years” ahead of everyone. And the personalize feature is disturbing.

   5. 👋

      Dall-E 3 was always better than Midjourney for 90% of my usage.

      I haven’t used Flux enough yet to say the same thing but right off the bat, I love open source and local install so right there, that’s a big plus!

2. I can’t agree about the couples, though maybe it’s because I’m a boomer. The couple on the left look vacant and unaware of their surroundings, and slavishly follow today’s conventions–tattoos, of course, though thankfully no piercings or nose rings. The couple on the right seem not only to be conscious, but actually enjoying the situation. I can’t say their look is timeless, but I think, or maybe just hope, that the fashion adopted by the left hand couple disappears quickly.

   1. I came to say the same. I totally agree with you, James. I hope is only sarcasm from him… Or he may need new glasses 😂

   2. The couple on the left looks insufferable 😂

   3. @@ElHongoVerde nah, it’s just that “visual quality” and “style” are quite subjective, and he is probably used to MJ more, and values this style more which is why he chose MJ over SD in the first place.

   4. This definitely. The couple on the left looks insufferable and horrible.

   5. Yeah, I agree. The couple on the left also looked lgbtq and woke…

3. King did have 5 fingers, 1 was going up the sword handle

   1. A much thinner finger sticking out of the pointer finger tho

   2. Yep. Came in here to mention this! Also, it’s possible that the first “four finger” image has the so-called missing finger holding the left side of the camera. Also, the Flux King had a nice crown while the MJ one did not…

   3. i was searching for this comment

   4. ​@Didi_Meow_Records It’s not thinner, it’s just partial behind what the hand is holding.
      All of the hands shots from Flux looked done right. there is a difference between not visible in scene and not physically there. I was able to creat similar looks with my hand.
      He is definitely biased to MJ.

   5. In a couple of examples the narrator misrepresented the finger “errors “. One is the king, as in your comment. The other is the first of the hands image test. There it’s very subtle, there’s a little finger knuckle half hidden by the angle and flexing of the parts and the little finger is bent so it is not visible

4. Flux Schnell is substantially inferior to either Flux Dev or Flux Pro. The reason it exists is because it’s fast (the word Schnell means “fast” in German) reasonably good images generated in only4 steps. I’d be surprised if Schnell could beat Mid Journey in many head to head comparisons. Flux Dev and Pro can easily match and often beat Mid Journey

   1. Its surprising he tested the worse quality version

   2. Das ist funkspeil.

   3. Schnell, meinen üntermenchen, schnell!

   4. @@karlpj1 Not surprised at all it meant to be run either through a cloud service like runpod or locally and if you where actually using you would run 10 images not 1-4 . Plus the prompting is all wrong for this model it uses descriptive prompts like Dalle or ideogram

   5. I agree – why did he test the worst version of FLUX LOL I use PRO and it is amazing!!

5. Jolly kings crown is spelled wrong. lol. And flux still got it. The flux image has 5 fingers, one goes up the sword hilt. Same with the 4 fingered camera shot.

   1. 13:26 It does appear that the Flux king has an index finger – but it is incredibly flexible to be in that position. IMO.

6. In comparing Flux and Midjourney, Flux seems more grounded in reality for image generation. My experience in architecture makes the skyscraper comparison particularly revealing. The Midjourney building resembles a Christmas tree, lacking the structural integrity of a real building, specially with the floor levels. In contrast, Flux renders the floor levels and overall design more clearly.

   1. Midjourney certainly has no structure when is related to buildings with some exceptions. When doing panos is a bit better, I guess because it copy references que show more integrally the buildings. In everything else is structurally messy, but artistically inspiring.

   2. I agree. It’s far more accurate to reality. It’s training data is more reliable in my opinion. I thought the couple shown side by side were people I’d like to meet, whereas the MJ couple would prejudge me, and their expressions cold and aloof.

7. I think comparing the lowest model of Flux with MidJourney is a bit biased… intentionally.

   1. His comparison between MJ and Dall-E 3 is also very biased towards MJ. I stopped watching after the “Pixar”-prompt… https://youtu.be/AXv5sgIoPnc?t=435

   2. Right, he’s very biased IMHO but he’s not claiming to be totally objective. He doesn’t try to hide his bias. 😂

   3. Also, he is choosing one of four images for Midjourney and is comparing it against the first generated with Flux 🤨

   4. Valuable observation. Also, thank you for writing “I think” and not “I feel like”, as that is more accurate and correct use of English.

   5. He does say in the title that he tested the free alternative. I was interested to see what the free version copuld produce.

8. Midjourney has a ‘look’. You know an image was generated with it as soon as you see it. Which in my opinion is not a good thing even if it is aesthetically “better”.

   1. Flux has a look in similar way. Flux is a great model that is easily trainable too.

   2. I agree. That’s exactly what I thought when I looked at the comparative images of the young woman at the beginning of the video. The MJ image was more dramatic, but also slightly less natural. If they asked ME which image was made by AI, I would’ve picked the MJ version.

9. You should do a Midjourney vs the Flux Pro video. Comparing MJ to the Flux Schnell is like comparing David and Goliath. Try Goliath vs Goliath.

   1. .5cents per image is kind of steep better of using pro or a fine tune on CivitAI

   2. @@KOSMIKFEADRECORDS So it is written… 😂. I was a born again christian for 31 years. The bible is not the Word of God and it is historically hogwash but it contains spiritual secrets that are mostly unlocked by spiritualists rather than the religious.

   3. Yeah, I didn’t think it was a fair test

   4. @@truepilgrimm Sorry to hear that. But you are dead wrong. Pun intended. The Bible IS the Word of God wether you like it or not or agree with it or not.

10. 14:30 seriously the one on the right looks far more stylish and suave the one on the left just looks scruffy. Also hate the fringe on the left. The left are just scruffy hippies with blue air

    1. I was planning to say the same thing. When has it become that junkie/homeless looking people are stylish now? These days you’re more original and stylish if you’re just yourself, clean and neat.

    2. Absolutely. I have no idea what he’s on about the left couple being more stylish or more attractive

    3. “Midjourney did a much better job of follow the prompt” …. proceeds to show a t-shirt with R2D2 on the left side and actual Yoda on the right…

11. MJ is not for artists, the very fact it is so heavily censored means it can never really be an artists tool no matter how good the images it produces.

    1. it’s good for amateurs 😅

    2. @@Broockle not even for amateurs

    3. @@omegaidol
       more like people that really only use photoshop or gimp to snip and move images around for collages 😅

    4. artists would make their own art no? This sort of shizz is for non-artists by definition

12. 14:45 you mentioned that you preferred the image that MJ generated, but in the end, Flux followed the prompt faithfully, while MJ didn’t. I don’t think you noticed it, but you asked for a yoda motif on the t-shirt, yet MJ generated an R2D2 imagine on the t-shirt.

13. The censorship in Midjourney is now so exaggerated that every square centimetre of skin is immediately cancelled. A summer outfit? Not possible. A beach scene in swimwear? Not possible. At some point, all the models will be wearing burqas. Midjourney is no longer an option for me.

    1. Middle East Journey 😂

    2. I am finding this too, I feel almost explaining anything to do with a womans body size or clothing gets an instant flag at this point. I slap the same prompts into the bing one lol and it generates the image, not at the MJ quality but it wont have an issue with it while MJ does.

    3. I remember trying to create a portrait for my barbarian character in a DnD game and I got bonked once for asking for “prohibited” content 😅 In the end, I was able to produce a partially shirtless dude, but it was only by inherent associations of the model itself – I couldn’t use any such keyword in the prompt, only by the nature of what barbarians in fur clothing and no armor look like, the model inserted the very little amount of nudity on its own. That was more than a year ago though, haven’t been using Midjourney for a good while.

    4. Well, I’ve generated thousands of fantasy images that are nudes, by teasing it out of the results instead of explicitly asking for it. You have to keep tweaking via inpaint mode about a hundred times and bouncing back and forth between 5.1 and 6 (because 5.2 will block the output even if you’re not even trying to get anything nude). But at some point (after about a year of doing this) I got a heavy-handed warning and the entire account froze up until I re-read their no-nudity FAQ and agreed to it. (I got busted!) So I read it and agreed and moved on with my other fantasy images. But in general I wish they did have a mode that allowed me to do what I want for my own purposes. I wasn’t even trying to get sex scenes, just natural scenes of fantastic human creatures, and it’s quite a fight sometimes. And since I give them $600+ a year, with privacy mode turned on, you’d think I’d have that luxury. But no.

    5. I don’t know if something changed, but I went to explore and rank images this week, and some of the pics were showing tons of skin, and there were even some topless women. I was surprised, because I thought they were avoiding nudity as part of their brand

14. 13:45 – Schnell *did* include all five fingers. The index the right hand is hidden behind the scepter.

15. Thaaaaaats a huge exaggeration.
    1) Used worst version from FLUX.
    2) Most of times used just one result from it, but chosen one of four from MJ.
    3) Used prompting style from MJ.
    How on Earth MJ will fail with this circumstances????
    I have suspicion Samson is an advocate of MJ =)

    1. Agree : (((

    2. yeap, also at 13:40 the flux king clearly has 5 fingers (the index finger partially hidden by the scepter) yet he says 4 for some reason, even drawing an arrow to point it out, and gives his preference to MJ as a result … for me the “four fingers” king looks way better, and feels more true to the prompt

    3. and the people in MJ are more atractive (are they?) and have better style (never requested in the prompt)

    4. @@MeshJedi I thought the people on the left were far less attractive and far less stylish. Yes they looked more modern, but they weren’t warm and realistic, they were edgy and cartoonish. They literally looked AI generated. The couple on the left were holding hands but the fingers interclasped were odd, there’s something wrong with his right eye, his stance isn’t quite right and there were weird lines on the right side of his suit that made no sense.

    5. Agreed i was thinking the same thing with the first image his first judgement was completely vauge then the guy makes a subjective opinion win in reality that first image cinematic MJ wins that if the cinematic was an 3d animated movie.

16. As a human artist I am never censored, 15 years of experience of drawing boobs.

    1. Boobs are the best invention ever

    2. Man of culture.

    3. I can think of no finer use of your talents. 😊

    4. So, you draw one-handed?

    5. @@ClockworkGearhead ofcourse

17. Nothing is more frustrating than creating a detailed prompt, only to have Midjourney tell me that SOMETHING is a banned, but doesn’t tell me what it is. Then going through every word trying to figure out what could potentially be objectionable to MJ, even though it all seems fairly innocent.

18. On the first image, Flux gave you something truly cinematic, where MJ gave you more of a pretty photo. As far as I’m concerned, Flux followed the prompt much more closely as a result.

19. Regarding the couple you gave to mj, flux did give you exactly what you wanted. And regarding the king with open arms, he did have 5 fingers. The hand shown with 4 fingers has a fifth finger going upwards against the handle in the back of the handle, you can actually see it… seriously gotta look at the details. Fair judgement comes at the price of not favorism one over the other due to one has funnier pic, but for what it will give you of what you’ve written.

20. As a German, I have to say that the images that “flux” generates often look as if the data was predominantly trained from German sources

    1. As a non german I have to wonder why this “as a german” thing exists, you guys don’t study any English over there? Are y’all poodles? “as an American … ” is one thing, “as a German..” is not the equivalent but German version of it, because “a German” is not the equivalent but German version of the same thing. Or is ‘a german’ a kind of pizza or something?

    2. Googled it, so you’re a beer glass holding lederhosen wearer. Like an American is hulk hogan wrapped in the stars and stripes. Got it.

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